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Anonymous_Member009
06-28-2001, 05:24 PM
What is success?

i can't define it, but i realize that i won't let myself 'be' until i reach it.

but its fleeting. never, ever attained or relished because...i don't know why.

sometimes i think the rest of the world is screaming for production and results out of me....but i wonder how much of that is my imagination.

my definition of success: i expect of me perfection, everytime, first try. i allow others the luxury of trial and error, but i won't set aside time in my own life for such.

i think my personal definition of success is unrealistic and unhealthy, yet it is the focus of my existence.

i wonder how much easier it would be to just allow myself the luxury to 'be', to exist, without the constant gnawing for something unreachable.

can anyone come up with a healthy definition of success?

?
Jeanette

jesla
06-29-2001, 12:35 AM
I saw this once on a poster.... and its how I like to define success....

Success is getting up one more time than you fall.

Garth
06-29-2001, 09:36 AM
Greetings Jeanette

Can we truly define anything ?
Once definitions are declared
contradictions seem to arise

Are we then hopeless . . .
. . . with nothing to hold onto ?

Yes and no
We are hopeless
that we will ever be perfect
We are not hopeless
for each moment is ever changing
ever imperfect
hence
We fit in everywhere

There is truly no right or wrong way to be
perfect or not
sraightforward or crooked
in crisis or in harmony . .
. . Life seems custom made for all

I honestly don't know where I am today
or where I'd be without it
I'm just here

Let us just be . . wherever we may

I of course wonder if this will make any sense for you .
. . I just write what comes .
Have a day . . . to remember :flower

:love Garth :sun

Anonymous_Member009
06-30-2001, 03:29 PM
Jesla: i love that definition!

Garth: very philosophical. unfortunately i'm brainless. i read your thoughts to my therapist yesterday (i printed them off because i had to look and think about them). she asked me if the writer was male. i don't have any idea why she asked that. curious though. one thing i definitely understand from your writing: any FINAL definition i come up with will still fall short of 'Perfect'


upon talking with my T yesterday, she gave me assignment to look in Webster's success and perfection.

Success: one. outcome or result. two. a. degree or measure of succeeding. b. a favorable termination of a venture, specif: the attainment of wealth, favor or eminence.

Succeed: ...two. to turn out well


Perfection: one. the quality or state of being perfect... two. a. an exemplification of supreme excellence. b. an unsurpassable degree of accuracy or excellence.

Perfectionism: jeanette ...two. a disposition to regard anything short of perfection as UNACCEPTABLE.

any thoughts, anyone?
jeanette

Pella
06-30-2001, 10:41 PM
:hugonJeanette:hugoff
I think the defination of success is relative. Success for me has changed through the years. Right here, right now in my life----- Success means that I can believe I have the strength to handle any situation with grace. That this very moment----my commitment to recovery is a sign of success.

When we strive for perfection it's hard to recognize anything less? Then it's difficult to have an awareness of the ordinary successes that are ours again and again. We set ourselves up for defeat because we can never "measure" up.

We're never guaranteed success by other's standards. I think self-esteem is one of the by-products of a job well done.......with God's help. Our attitudes can help someone else succeed too. I think in our youth we are taught that success only came in certain sizes and shapes. We need new definations!:happy
Love beth :sun

freddy
08-20-2001, 05:42 AM
I never sat down and thought about how striving for success has tied in with my ed...so thank-you for relating the two. I always wanted to be perfect...at everything...but I never actually considered what that would look like or that maybe my image of success may change. I sat down and wrote out how I would know if I was successful..what it would consist of in all sorts of terms. THe list was long but all the things I focus on surrounding my ed were not on it. It is like I am afraid to actually try to be succesful at the things I really care about and focus my energy on my imperfections in body. Thank you all for leading me to this exercise and realization. Take care of yourselves!

Cheers,

freddy